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New drama started. Mr c.v is not capable to do good settlement. He is puppet of iba. I am Shure he will destroy bank employees future and spoil banking service environment also. Aibea working for management. Result is Workman earn very less salary and facilities. Their standard is below than state/center government swipers. This is real picture but aibea wear black cloth on their eyes.
Great.. It is circular of unions foolishness. Why these leaders wasting our time and money in attending these meetings. Hay Bhagwan Inko thoda dimaag de do.
All bankers creat whats app msgses and other socil msgs that bankers has bycott the asamble election 2019 becoues there wage reviosn are not done by govrnment iba or our unions .
Dear Bankers, as I realised, once AIBEA union is on strike, others gaddar type unions are opening branch and doing work as usual, so there is requirement of amalgamation /merger of all the unions, then only it can thrust the pressure to IBA. Otherwise sabhi ko milega BABA JI KA DHULLU.
Koi in union leaders ko appreciation comment to de do, inhone khichhdi paka kar bade aram se wage revision election k baad shift kar diya. Ch venktachlam aj kush to bahut hoga apni chaal chalne k liye.
We will only go on a strike now if even the leaders who are pensioners take a cut in their pensions for thr strike.
Enough is enough this is not done.
Or they ask the Govt to form a new Pay Commission on the footsteps of CPC and limit their (Union) invlomemt to staff welafre activities othet than wage settlement.
Wat Iba offer iba never cm with a statement. but what ever we come to know only from the union part. why not these meetings video recording is done and this way each and every banker shoud come to know what happening actually inside. Bankers who are posted in fur flung area if north eaeast like arunachal china border, nagaland , manipur etc .. how they feel belongingness if things are going like this.
Why retired persons are union leaders?how can you think they will do something for employees. We must kickout to them from union. We have not learned any thing from last settlement. Last time basic increased 2% that is done by chv. Then where are other union? I think all are taken money from iba to make settlement. So we have nothing to do now. Bhajan karo.
The minimum bank officers should get:- 1-by merging da as on Oct 2017 & special pay on the present basic & then having a load of 15% . The new basic pay for scale 1 officer is 42300 (round off to nearest hundred). 2-5 days week should be implemented with immediate effect. 3-i guess this is the minimum on which bank officers will agree this time..
The sweepers in our municipal office have more salary than me!!!
The next government that comes to power at the centre would give decent income support even to the unemployed. The income thus declared would be increased in each and every budget too. If our settlement is less than 20%, then bankers would suffer badly. Remember that we get a chance for wage hikes only once in five years.
Nowadays I feel ashamed to say that I am a banker.
I personally do not wish to get the arrears before March 31st coz it will bring a huge tax burden on us. Since income tax is nill till 5 lakhs for the next financial year, it would be a better time to receive the bulk arrears.
I could not control my laugh at the voices which say "kick out chv". Look at the foolishness and immaturity of these voices. Can any one dare to unseat chv who has the blessings of the managements and iba. Managements, iba and union leaders have several weaknesses and they all have understanding to live and let live. No bank employee can break this nexus.Also no employee can survive by quitting union.This is reality. Bank employees are therefore advised to shut their mouths and accept whatever small mercy is thrown at them.
Only solution, pressurise your local sectt. AGS , DGS to bring bankers under CPC or at Par with CPC otherwise write letter to HRMS not to deduct union fee from salary.
Foolish people who are asking CPC are cooly forgetting the fact that VII pay commission gave a rise of 16% on 10 years basis. So arithmatically speaking it is equivalent to 8% on 5 year basis. Further all this talk of a chaprasi in central govt earning more than bank clerk is totally bogus. Please check facts and figures before writing. You cant compare salary of govt chaprasi about to retire next month with a newlty joined bank clerk.
Mr. I think you need to enlighten youself more about CPC. It is bitter truth that in bank entry level clerk are getting less than Peon in ITD/high court/KVS/DRDO/Excise/Railways
Dont forget that all psu banks would have been wound up long back had it not been for unions. Iam not favouring CHV but it is easy to sit at home and comnent without ignoring ground realities. In a pvt sector bank you can be removed from yourjob for no reason at all
If you are removed from job for no reason in Pvt bank then under labour law you can sue the company. Till now I have not heard any uninformed dismissal from Pvt bank. Try to clear your facts first.
And what is happening in so called progressive pvt sector banks is OPEN SECRET. Rampant mis selling of banking products using all ethical and unethical techniqyues is known to all. So called top class pvt banks have been caught by RBI , SEBI and Govt of India indulging mal practises. Icicibnak story is well known. Yes Bk tamasha is open secret.
Bankers in PSU are resigning to join Pvt bank at the age of 40-60. If you are uninformed that kindly file a RTI and you will know the number of resignations after Scale 3 and 4 in PSU
Also the so called hi fi pay given in these pvt bks is CTC i.e. cost to company which includes all irrational items and actual pay in hand is much less. Contract labour is very common in pvt bank even at officer and executive level. Contract staff is paid very less with many notional benefits.
95% staff in these pvt bank is less than 5 years service. Means what.....get out.
Yes...unions should be more active but 12% fixed plus 4.25% variable pay is fair and justified in given circumstances. Otherwise resign and join some pvt bank then u will realise the asli truth
Can u tell me the basis of your figure of 18% ? In that case you are asking for 36% on 10 year basis then how can you wish for CPC which gave 16% on 10 year basis
On what basis variable pay would be paid? Is this on. Performance basis? If it is on performance basis then you need to do cross sales of insurance and other product else forgot about 4.65 %. Moreover, if we need to do cross sale then better we leave PNB and join private bank.
16% on 10 year basis is same as 8% on 5 year basis. Its arithmetic my dear friend. Bankers will get 2 settlements one from 1.11.2017 and next from 1.11.2022.
Logic guy you means a fresher who joined bank 1 year ago will get only 2.4% if wage revision occurs at this time at 12%. Suppose a person getting 10000 one years ago he will get 10000*2.4%=240 Rs increase in gross. And other person who joined 5 years ago getting 15000 at this time will get 15000*12%=1800 increase in gross. it seems you are a Blind logical guy. Your comprehension power is very low.
What silly arithmetic of 2.40%. This settlement is from 1.11.2017 to 31.10.2022. So its nothing to do with no.of years completed. Are you matric fail. Please join pvt bank
Shouldn't settle for anything below 15 percent and uniformity should be brought in Gratuity rules. As per rule, Gratuity is payable after 4.8 years of continuous service, but in bank it's 10yrs. I don't understand the rationale behind it.
Another interesting fact....Present DA for bankers is 61%. After 48% DA merger already agreed by IBA and all unions the new DA will be 61 minus 48 i.e. 13 % which is more than the 12% latest DA for central govt staff
@Logical guy..Please check Gratuity rules on this and comment. There is also a high court rule regarding the same. My spouse who works in an IT company was paid the Gratuity amount after 5yrs of continuous service when he left the org.
That means people like you are only interested in 5 years service ? What will you do after 40 years age.....beg on the streets ? As no pvt sector bank will like to keep you on payroll after 40 !
Please mind your language.Its my personal decision whether to continue till retirement or resign. There are some people who blindly follow the unions. These people are only working for their personal gains.
Detractors will always be there. If someone is working in a pvt bank and getting less salary, that's not our problem. Friends don't lose your cool over someone's comments. We took the exam. And came here after getting selected. And what is our working condition only we know. Our salary has to be comparable to what people in other public sector companies are earning. For example take IOCL. No one asks an IOCL engineer why petrol prices skyrocketed. It was govt decision. Similarly no one has the right to ask why corporate loans became NPA and banks went into loss. Or why the hammer blow of farm loan waiver was taken by PSBs. People whose whole sole job profile is to lick boot and beg walk-in customers for credit card and insurance policies can't decide what our salary should be. It's illogical guys. Let him shove his logic up his ass.
'Arora solution' you tube channel claims that AIBEA showed positive attitude.
But I think AIBEA is only constituent who demolished bankers Dreams and more over breaked UFBU. Ch venktachlam is only agent of IBA/govt. Throw him off from bank union.
New drama started. Mr c.v is not capable to do good settlement. He is puppet of iba. I am Shure he will destroy bank employees future and spoil banking service environment also. Aibea working for management. Result is Workman earn very less salary and facilities. Their standard is below than state/center government swipers. This is real picture but aibea wear black cloth on their eyes.
ReplyDeleteBefore writing please be sure about the correct spelling of the word.
DeleteSorry for wrong spellings, but all matter I was written is correct and no one found correction in that.
DeleteFreinds this was the right time to go
ReplyDeleteFor indefinite strike till we achieve
Our demands.
Pls union leaders go for a Indefinite strike.
Indefinite strike pe jayega kaun, sabhi leaders ne to risvat le rakhi h bankers ko barbaad karne ki.
DeleteGreat.. It is circular of unions foolishness. Why these leaders wasting our time and money in attending these meetings.
ReplyDeleteHay Bhagwan Inko thoda dimaag de do.
Unity first & then immediate XIth wage revision should be done ,at an early date.
ReplyDeleteAll bankers creat whats app msgses and other socil msgs that bankers has bycott the asamble election 2019 becoues there wage reviosn are not done by govrnment iba or our unions .
ReplyDeleteOnly one solution Go for indefinite strike
ReplyDeleteHam staff ka oukat nahin he fight kare be ke.educated he Lekin andarka strong nehin he. Thquat he to strike karo indifinute. Dekhnge less nehin hoga
ReplyDeleteDear Bankers, as I realised, once AIBEA union is on strike, others gaddar type unions are opening branch and doing work as usual, so there is requirement of amalgamation /merger of all the unions, then only it can thrust the pressure to IBA. Otherwise sabhi ko milega BABA JI KA DHULLU.
ReplyDeleteAIBEA ne kob bankers ke liya strike kia.They have called strike for the political parties only.
DeleteSab bakwas ki bate mat Karo. Bas union se unsubscribe Karo.
ReplyDeleteVery right then only thrse thieves will come by neel down and get with honesty a good decent pay revision
DeleteRight
DeleteSahi bola, Dikhao saalo ko union se bahar ka rasta.
DeleteHumari fee/levy ke dum par apni luxurious life jee rahe hain saale.
Come soon over the most delayed but important issue.must be More than previous.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDeleteFile a Case one IBA and union leaders for undue delay and rolling bankers expectations. Courts interven will results some fruitful.
ReplyDeleteKoi in union leaders ko appreciation comment to de do, inhone khichhdi paka kar bade aram se wage revision election k baad shift kar diya. Ch venktachlam aj kush to bahut hoga apni chaal chalne k liye.
ReplyDeleteChv getout from bank wage revision talks
DeleteChv to jashan bna rha hoga, sala bank ka Ghar-Jamai ban ke baitha hai.
DeleteNow the settlement will be signed on after Jan 2020 as the lat 5 settlements are signed after 30 months only
ReplyDeleteBank union leaders wage revision kabhi achha nahi hone denge
DeleteBolti baba mata Bano. Ch V Ko hatao.
ReplyDeleteYe log kabhi achha wage revision nahi hone denge everything is preplanned. 0nly 12% hike shame very shame
DeleteYe bank leaders apna kaam emandari se nahi karte
DeleteWhen merger of DA and implementing date is agreed why there is delay? Is it for levy?
ReplyDeleteWe will only go on a strike now if even the leaders who are pensioners take a cut in their pensions for thr strike.
ReplyDeleteEnough is enough this is not done.
Or they ask the Govt to form a new Pay Commission on the footsteps of CPC and limit their (Union) invlomemt to staff welafre activities othet than wage settlement.
Right
DeleteWat Iba offer iba never cm with a statement. but what ever we come to know only from the union part. why not these meetings video recording is done and this way each and every banker shoud come to know what happening actually inside. Bankers who are posted in fur flung area if north eaeast like arunachal china border, nagaland , manipur etc .. how they feel belongingness if things are going like this.
ReplyDeleteGood advice, union wale agar honest hain to jarur implement karenge.
DeleteNeed of the hour is fewer banks and one union.
ReplyDeleteWhy retired persons are union leaders?how can you think they will do something for employees. We must kickout to them from union. We have not learned any thing from last settlement. Last time basic increased 2% that is done by chv. Then where are other union? I think all are taken money from iba to make settlement. So we have nothing to do now.
ReplyDeleteBhajan karo.
All retired bank union leaders kick out from bank wage revision talks because he sathi bikau aur Bauman hai
DeleteThe minimum bank officers should get:-
ReplyDelete1-by merging da as on Oct 2017 & special pay on the present basic & then having a load of 15% . The new basic pay for scale 1 officer is 42300 (round off to nearest hundred).
2-5 days week should be implemented with immediate effect.
3-i guess this is the minimum on which bank officers will agree this time..
4 standard working hours in banks for all the cadres
Delete5 removal of bancassurance
I beg Ur pardon for the above post the new basic for scale 1 officer would be 43400..
ReplyDeleteThat will be too low
DeleteThe minimum basic should be 56000/ as govt class 1 officer is draeing that is stand of AIBOC
ReplyDeleteGood
DeleteThe sweepers in our municipal office have more salary than me!!!
ReplyDeleteThe next government that comes to power at the centre would give decent income support even to the unemployed. The income thus declared would be increased in each and every budget too. If our settlement is less than 20%, then bankers would suffer badly. Remember that we get a chance for wage hikes only once in five years.
Nowadays I feel ashamed to say that I am a banker.
What about 5 days Banking
ReplyDeleteSchool fee hike every year 10% and our wage hike in 5 years only 12% , average per year hike 2.4%, good leadership by chv
ReplyDeleteI am feel ashamed because I am foolish banker. Who pay salary, penion to others but this own salqry and pension is in darkness.
ReplyDeleteScrap bipartite. Demand CPC. That's all
ReplyDelete1st march ko '9 Idiots' kya karnege IBA ke samne.
ReplyDelete������ Really
Delete9 idiots
These idiots will surrender before iba and than say 'please fuck us'
DeleteI personally do not wish to get the arrears before March 31st coz it will bring a huge tax burden on us. Since income tax is nill till 5 lakhs for the next financial year, it would be a better time to receive the bulk arrears.
ReplyDeleteIt is not nil... Tax slabs have not changed... Ur income would be greater than 5 lakh... You have to pay whole tax. U can divide it in 3 years though
DeleteI could not control my laugh at the voices which say "kick out chv". Look at the foolishness and immaturity of these voices. Can any one dare to unseat chv who has the blessings of the managements and iba. Managements, iba and union leaders have several weaknesses and they all have understanding to live and let live. No bank employee can break this nexus.Also no employee can survive by quitting union.This is reality. Bank employees are therefore advised to shut their mouths and accept whatever small mercy is thrown at them.
ReplyDeleteOnly solution, pressurise your local sectt. AGS , DGS to bring bankers under CPC or at Par with CPC otherwise write letter to HRMS not to deduct union fee from salary.
DeleteI will quit from all unions
DeleteFoolish people who are asking CPC are cooly forgetting the fact that VII pay commission gave a rise of 16% on 10 years basis. So arithmatically speaking it is equivalent to 8% on 5 year basis. Further all this talk of a chaprasi in central govt earning more than bank clerk is totally bogus. Please check facts and figures before writing. You cant compare salary of govt chaprasi about to retire next month with a newlty joined bank clerk.
ReplyDeleteNever compare Apples with Oranges.
Mr. I think you need to enlighten youself more about CPC. It is bitter truth that in bank entry level clerk are getting less than Peon in ITD/high court/KVS/DRDO/Excise/Railways
DeleteDont forget that all psu banks would have been wound up long back had it not been for unions. Iam not favouring CHV but it is easy to sit at home and comnent without ignoring ground realities. In a pvt sector bank you can be removed from yourjob for no reason at all
ReplyDeleteIf you are removed from job for no reason in Pvt bank then under labour law you can sue the company. Till now I have not heard any uninformed dismissal from Pvt bank. Try to clear your facts first.
DeleteAnd what is happening in so called progressive pvt sector banks is OPEN SECRET. Rampant mis selling of banking products using all ethical and unethical techniqyues is known to all. So called top class pvt banks have been caught by RBI , SEBI and Govt of India indulging mal practises. Icicibnak story is well known. Yes Bk tamasha is open secret.
ReplyDeleteHave u seen anybody above 40 working in these pvt banks? So where should bankers betwewn age 40 and 60 go ? Beg in the streets.
ReplyDeleteBankers in PSU are resigning to join Pvt bank at the age of 40-60. If you are uninformed that kindly file a RTI and you will know the number of resignations after Scale 3 and 4 in PSU
DeleteHow many of such people complete more than 5 years service in pvt banks ? You also file RTI and find out
DeleteWhy do they need to complete 5 years when they can switch and earn more. FYI they earn 10 times more in 5 years than us.
DeleteAlso the so called hi fi pay given in these pvt bks is CTC i.e. cost to company which includes all irrational items and actual pay in hand is much less. Contract labour is very common in pvt bank even at officer and executive level. Contract staff is paid very less with many notional benefits.
ReplyDelete95% staff in these pvt bank is less than 5 years service. Means what.....get out.
How many of you know that an ordinary lower level clerk is called JUNIOR EXECUTIVE in pvt banks?
ReplyDeleteYes...unions should be more active but 12% fixed plus 4.25% variable pay is fair and justified in given circumstances. Otherwise resign and join some pvt bank then u will realise the asli truth
ReplyDeleteNot Justifiable at all.
DeleteMinimum 18% + 5 Days week is acceptable.
Can u tell me the basis of your figure of 18% ? In that case you are asking for 36% on 10 year basis then how can you wish for CPC which gave 16% on 10 year basis
DeleteOn what basis variable pay would be paid? Is this on. Performance basis? If it is on performance basis then you need to do cross sales of insurance and other product else forgot about 4.65 %. Moreover, if we need to do cross sale then better we leave PNB and join private bank.
DeleteWhat's you say Mr. Logical guy...
Mr. Logic guy don't be blind about 16% increases after 10 yrs means 8% after 5 years.
DeleteYeh koi raasan-paani ki calculation nahi hai.
16% on 10 year basis is same as 8% on 5 year basis. Its arithmetic my dear friend. Bankers will get 2 settlements one from 1.11.2017 and next from 1.11.2022.
DeleteLogic guy you means a fresher who joined bank 1 year ago will get only 2.4% if wage revision occurs at this time at 12%.
DeleteSuppose a person getting 10000 one years ago he will get 10000*2.4%=240 Rs increase in gross.
And other person who joined 5 years ago getting 15000 at this time will get 15000*12%=1800 increase in gross.
it seems you are a Blind logical guy. Your comprehension power is very low.
What silly arithmetic of 2.40%. This settlement is from 1.11.2017 to 31.10.2022.
DeleteSo its nothing to do with no.of years completed. Are you matric fail. Please join pvt bank
You are really illogical guy.
DeleteArithmatic can't be applied everywhere.
Matric mein fail hokar phir join kiya koi psu bank. You are fit for removal
DeleteShouldn't settle for anything below 15 percent and uniformity should be brought in Gratuity rules. As per rule, Gratuity is payable after 4.8 years of continuous service, but in bank it's 10yrs. I don't understand the rationale behind it.
ReplyDeleteYour figure of 4.8 yrs of service for gratuity is wrong. Its 10 yrs service everywhere
ReplyDeleteAnother interesting fact....Present DA for bankers is 61%. After 48% DA merger already agreed by IBA and all unions the new DA will be 61 minus 48 i.e. 13 % which is more than the 12% latest DA for central govt staff
ReplyDeleteBefore posting here do some home work to get the facts..
DeleteNew DA will be calculated as
13 * .7 = 9.1%
Your DA calculation is wrong. The new DA is 13% post merger of 48% into basic.
DeleteNo logic on what this guy says.. this person thinks whatever he posts is only logical.. No use of telling..Leave it.
DeleteThis man is right, New DA factor after merging DA with basic will be 0.7 So left behind DA will get reduced its value.
DeleteAre boss i have checked DA calculation again. Current DA slabs is 611 slabs...out of which 478 slabs are agreed for merger.
DeleteYou have not checked, for better understand read joint note of 10th BPS. DA factor was revised to 0.10 from 0.12 in that settlement.
Delete@Logical guy..Please check Gratuity rules on this and comment. There is also a high court rule regarding the same. My spouse who works in an IT company was paid the Gratuity amount after 5yrs of continuous service when he left the org.
ReplyDeleteThat means people like you are only interested in 5 years service ? What will you do after 40 years age.....beg on the streets ? As no pvt sector bank will like to keep you on payroll after 40 !
DeletePlease mind your language.Its my personal decision whether to continue till retirement or resign. There are some people who blindly follow the unions. These people are only working for their personal gains.
DeleteFools like you who dont understand basic arithmatic should resign and get lost.
DeleteWho is this logical guy blabbering here without any sense? Better to stop commenting to these union boot lickers.
DeleteLogic will remain....you keep barking
DeleteGratuity rules explained:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.linkedin.com/pulse/gratuity-required-complete-5-years-continuous-service-rahul-kumar
I was unware of this rule. Why is that bank staff need 10yrs of service to get Gratuity? What a pathetic union we have. Sad to be part of this union.
DeleteNext 11 days mein 12% (fixed) plus 4% (variable) mein settlement hojayega. Jo ukhaadna hai ukhaad lo.
ReplyDelete'Logical boy' are you child of Vanktachlam ? Tumhara Baap bhi kanpur mein yhi bola tha par kuch hua nahi abhi tak.
DeleteKeep barking 😀😀😀😀😀
DeleteIba ka dalal hai chv
ReplyDeleteYou are right jab tak ye chv union leader rahega tab tak union member ka kabhi bhala nahi ho sakta.
ReplyDeleteDetractors will always be there. If someone is working in a pvt bank and getting less salary, that's not our problem. Friends don't lose your cool over someone's comments. We took the exam. And came here after getting selected. And what is our working condition only we know. Our salary has to be comparable to what people in other public sector companies are earning. For example take IOCL. No one asks an IOCL engineer why petrol prices skyrocketed. It was govt decision. Similarly no one has the right to ask why corporate loans became NPA and banks went into loss. Or why the hammer blow of farm loan waiver was taken by PSBs. People whose whole sole job profile is to lick boot and beg walk-in customers for credit card and insurance policies can't decide what our salary should be. It's illogical guys. Let him shove his logic up his ass.
ReplyDeleteWhere hiden logical Guy? Where get confused?
ReplyDeleteConfusion to tumhare khud k logic mein hi hai.
Logical guy does not need sermons from barking dogs. 12% + 4% is fixed and final. Keep barking.
ReplyDeleteDoes Venktachalam is your true father? If no, why you are preaching his wording?
DeleteKeep barking 👏👏👏👏👏
Delete'Arora solution' you tube channel claims that
ReplyDeleteAIBEA showed positive attitude.
But I think AIBEA is only constituent who demolished bankers Dreams and more over breaked UFBU.
Ch venktachlam is only agent of IBA/govt.
Throw him off from bank union.