Sunday, March 3, 2019


105 comments:

Boi said...

A heart felt gratitude towards workmen unions for trying to sort out the differences. Ufbu and twin banners need to stand united now. Officers can hope for a an acceptable wage revision only if our awrad staff brothers get a respectable wage. Let's all strive and fight for a minimum subsistence wage revision that is no way lesser than cpc.

Jk said...

Aiobc in my view is right.

Young banker said...

AIBEA is the real culprit. It has never actually cared about it's members. I am going to withdraw my membership soon and there are 16 other members with me in this.

Anonymous said...

Bankers now become deprived section in the society due to immense hard-work done by these selfish leaders in past 15-20 years.
If these UFBU leaders specially AIBEA leaders not stopped betraying their work than 'Naga of Lord Shiva will bite them'.
Jai Maha Shivratri.

Anonymous said...

20.2, 01.3 wali meeting mein toh inse kuch hua nahi. Ab 13.3 ko kya koi jaadu kar lenge. Mat lutao humari mehnat ke paise in vekar ki meetings mein.
ufbu has expertise only in delaying wage revision, not in drwaing max wage hike.
Nikamme saale..

Unknown said...

Aibea and chv wrong - all common banker not accepted 12% wage hike, chv totaly faild of bank wage talks. - chv murdabad

Unknown said...

Yes chv like a iba agent/ dalal i request to all common member please kick out chv from union

Anonymous said...

Why AIBEA not demanding cpc
Will 12 percentage give more or equal to cpc...chv give answer..

Atanu Chakraborty said...

All the unions are acting what IBA want and iba has fulfilled their aim.No action about merger.

Unknown said...

Union leaders make so difficult bank revision result zero or 12% hike. Ek din aisa bhi ayega jab common banker ka union per se viswash it jaega- Chv murdabad

Anonymous said...

Friends why workman union silent about HRA issue and medical issues.

Can they find 1 room or 2 room set in cities for Rs1500.

Can they manage to consult doctors and purchase medicines for whole year just in Rs 2200.

Very Shameful that we subscribed to a blind union.

Unknown said...

Aibea spoiling bankers

Anonymous said...

Very Right sir.
HRA AND MEDICAL ISSUES ARE THE CONCERNS OF WORKMEN STAFF ONLY.
BECAUSE OFFICERS STAFF ARE GETTING ENOUGH AS LEASE AND MEDICAL BILLS REIMBURSEMENT.

Logical guy said...

12% on 5 year basis is much better than CPC of 16% on 10 year basis. So CPC is bad at this stage which would indirectly give us 8% on 5 year basis. Educated bankers will realise this

Logical guy said...

Guts hai to quit AIBEA, nobidy is forcing to stay on. But many illiterates will keep paying union fees and at the same time abuse the union.

Logical guy said...

What is happening pvt banks is scary. No job security and actual pay is much less than what is shown to outside world

Logical guy said...

Agreed union is useless...but what are we doing by abusing them. Hai kusi mein guts then form new union and fight.

Logical guy said...

One friend of mine actually gets 56000 in hand p.m. whereas his CTC is 1,00,000 p.m. How many of you know this tragedy of pvt bank officers ? All bogus items like training expences etc are included to inflate CTC. Nobody works beyond 5 yrs...either too stressed out or shown the door and replaced by some new bakra

Anonymous said...

Mr. Logical Guy...
Newly joined clerk of Bank pay structure is
BP 11765
Special allowance 912
Spl. Pay 850
HRA (say 9% max) 1135
DA 8265
Transport Allow. 425

GROSS PAY = 23352

Whereas
Asst. CBDT grade 2400 31300
LDC centre Govt. 28500
Asst ITD 30500
Many other dept entry level clerks are drawing more than 30000. Where you live guy.

You are like a frog of a well who don't want to see outside and think that only he lives in haven.

Grow up and educate youself.

Don't feel humiliated from the truth.

Logical guy said...

My dear friend thanks for your info and hard work. But you have cooly fogotten that so called entry level 28500 for LDC is fixed for next 10 years. O mean even after 5, 6 , 7, 8 9 years the LDC starting salary will remain 28500. Whereas the starting salary of a bank clerk which is 23500 as per old scale will be roughly 27000 to 28000 from 1.11.2017 and this entry level salary of bank clerk will be roughly 31000 from 1.11.2022 assuming 12% wage hike next time also which will be more than the LDC entry level salary in 2022. So its crstal clear that CPC is less attractive. We should for 5 days working, zero late sitting, ban on calling for Sunday or Holiday working

Anonymous said...

In 2030 clerk concept in bank will be abolished

Unknown said...

I am also psu bank 61000 gross in hand 38000 no loan

Logical guy said...

Oh foolish Unknown. I not talk8ng of gross and net. I am talking of CTC and gross. Secondly your figures of 61000 and net of 38000 with no loan are bogus. Daring hai to give full breakup of gross and net.

Boi said...

Friends IBA and twin banners have this old habit of testing the waters by spreading rumours. Please note that bipartite hike and pay commission hikes are two very different things. CPC hike is calculated on the existing gross salary of employee. Whereas BPS hike only IBA and Unions can understand. This "Logical Guy" is maybe some troll or footloose soldier (read ass licker) of union. It's not linear like 12 percent for 5 years so 2.4pc per year. Stay united and don't fight for percentage. We want salary according to minimum wage concept. How stupid can you be to accept lower salary for next years expecting higher salaries from next BPS. Let him fuck his logic. No percentage game. Immediately no one can dump union. But a simple message can be conveyed to them. #nocpc_nolevy.

Logical guy said...

Nowhere I have said linear growth of 2.40% that is your imagination.

Logical guy said...

You yourself are admitting thst no one can dump unions immeduately....is this not enpugh proof that you yourself are the best ass licker of unions. If you have even little guts then quit the union. These unions can be taught a lesson only when their membership is reduced. End of the day ONLY LOGIC WILL PREVAIL. Dogs like you can keep barking. Nobody is listening to you neither union nor iba. Keep barking.

M V Ramanamurthy. said...

What about the Retirees issues and updation of pension..One should not forget root while enjoying the fruit..
Pensioners problems no body is taking up for redressal.
M V R Murthy.

SS said...

This logical guy doesn't have any logic. I have seen him posting irrelevant comments against all the posts others posts and he things he is the only educated and knowledgeable person in the whole banking industry. Pity on him for blindly following the unions.

You cant correct some people. Better not to argue with this guy.

Logical guy said...

SBI and BOB give staff housing loan of Rs.100 lacs to its officers (after 1 year confirmation) at 6.50% simple interest (which is equivalent of 3% compound interest) with repayment period upto 70 yrs of age.I give open challengeany to all illiterates and tell me which Central or State govt dept gives such grand housing loan benefit. You mean to say unions in these banks are useless

Logical guy said...

SBI and BOB also give clean overdraft facility if Rs.8 to 10 lacs ( repayable only on retirement) to its officers. Only interst @ mclr is to be paid on monthly basis. Unions in these banks have fought for many years to get these bwnefits. Which central or state govt dept gives such benefit to its officer? All illiterate barking dogs ko open challenge.

Unknown said...

Mr.Logical guy

Please don't spread rumors.

Upper cap is Rs.60 lacs and Rate of interest is 6.95 for all cadre of officers

Anonymous said...

Guy, You are giving wrong information.
Upto scale 5 - 60 lacs
Dgm & above - 80 lacs
ROI 6.95%

Don't post wrong information if you are not aware.

Anonymous said...

What would be approx gross salary of scale 1 officer, if hike is 12%

Anonymous said...

Dear..
Employees covered under CPC enjoying high earning since 2016 with 5 day week and more than 25 holidays in a calender year.
In which sense bankers are in better position.
Who are fighting for 12 % hike and 5 day week.

Anonymous said...

Logical guy..
LDC 28500 pay under CPC (not considering DA hike) from 2016 to 2026 will get in 10 years..
28500 * 120 = 34,20,000 /-

Whereas bankers
Almost two year late i.e Nov/17

23352 + 2802 (12% hike) = 26154
For five years 2017 to 2022
26154 * 60 = 15,69,240 /-

26154 + 3138 (assuming 12% hike for 12th BPS) = 29292 /-
For five years Nov/22 to Nov/27

29292 * 60 = 17,57,550 /-

Total a banker get in 10 years (2 yrs late) get
15,69,240 + 17,57,550 = 33,26,790 /-

There is clear difference in salary.

In RD term...
Salary paid to a banker and LDC if converted to RD @ 7 % what they get..

BANKER...
26154 (1st 5 Yrs) = 18,81,371 /-
29292 (later 5 yr) = 21,07,101/-
Total of 120 months= 39,88,472/-

LDC under CPC...
28500 in 10 yrs give 49,50,608/-

Now you can understand who is better paying ?

No doubt LDC is better than a clerk in Bank beacause he is..
1. Better paying.
2. Enjoying 5 day week
3. Enjoying more holidays.
4. CPC is 2 yr advanceb than BPS
5. Regulated working hours.

This is bitter truth that you are under paid.

Anonymous said...

Outcome of all these debate is only Bankers are Beggars
.....

Logical guy said...

No. I am in SBI. Its 100 lacs for all officers. Rate is 6.50%. Fact is fact. Your info is 3 years old. Update and grow up.

Logical guy said...

No. I am in SBI. Its 100 lacs for all officers. Rate is 6.50%. Fact is fact. Your info is 3 years old. Update and grow up.

Logical guy said...

No. I am in SBI. Its 100 lacs for all officers. Rate is 6.50%. Fact is fact. Your info is 3 years old. Update and grow up.

Logical guy said...

Till this moment NOT A SINGLE ILLITERATE has told me which central or state govt officers gets this amount of nearly free (simple interest 6.50% is equivalent to 3.45% compound interest) also such liberal clean overdraft limit of 10 lacs ( repayable only on retirement)

Logical guy said...

Ok. Will you accept a new offer by way of CPC just like Central govt BUT NO LIBERAL NEARLY FREE HOUSING LOSN OF 100 LACS AND CLEAN OVERDRAFT OF 10 LACS. ARGUE LOGICALLY.

END OF THE DAY LOGIC WILL PREVAIL. DOGS ARE FREE TO KEEP BARKING.

Friends we should cancel union membership so as to pressure on them for improving working conditions.

Otherwise whats the usr of 18% rise which would be attached with more torcherous working conditions

Unknown said...

Chv get out from union

Unknown said...

Your PF NO LOGICAL GUY

Anonymous said...

OK we got your point. Bankers are highly paid individuals. Data wat u mean to say na. Fine. We are highest paid sector in India. Stay happy with your loan schemes. Donkey sala

Anonymous said...

Hello Logic Guy so called state and Centeral government don't do APY PMSBY PMJBY PMAY , DEMONETISATION GAS SUBSIDY LINKING APART FROM OUR BASIC DUTIES NO HOLIDAY WORKING THEY DON'T TAKE FINANCIAL RISK,THEY DON'T HAVE STAFF ACCOUNTABILITY THEY DON'T HAVE FREQUENT TRANSFERS,THEY DON'T HAVE YEAR ENDING AUDITS ,WHAT IS THE USE OF 100 LAKHS LOAN WHEN YOU GET MERE 35000/-SALARY.....ARE YOU REALLY A BANKER

Logical guy said...

Its not for beggars like you. You seem to be a chaprasi.

Logical guy said...

Its not for beggars like you. You seem to be a chaprasi

Anonymous said...

Don't decide what should be he/she (chaprasi)....please revert on his/her logic Mr. Logical guy

Anonymous said...

Pls don't write abusive comments n fight amongst yourself stay cum give good suggestion which can b valuable in next sitting

Unknown said...

NDCCB employees on indefinite strike

Anonymous said...

Election comm. has declared date of election,now argue & fight after sept 19.till then bye bye

Logical guy said...

Till this moment NOT A SINGLE ILLITERATE has told me which central or state govt officers gets this amount of nearly free (simple interest 6.50% is equivalent to 3.45% compound interest) also such liberal clean overdraft limit of 10 lacs ( repayable only on retirement)

Logical guy said...

Till this moment NOT A SINGLE ILLITERATE has told me which central or state govt officers gets this amount of nearly free (simple interest 6.50% is equivalent to 3.45% compound interest) also such liberal clean overdraft limit of 10 lacs ( repayable only on retirement)

Logical guy said...

Further why should wr care for chaprasi and clerical staff? We officers suffer late sitting Sunday banking, long transfers away from home. So officers benefits cannot be compared with cleric and chaprasi

Logical guy said...

In our SBI clerks and chaprasi run away at sharp 5.00 p.m. and we officers struggle and work beyond 8.00 p.m.

Logical guy said...

Another anomaly. Clerks get 3 increments for completing JAIIB and CAIIB. Why officers get only 2 increments for passing the same exam.

Further clerks and chaprasi get pleasure trip LFC every 2 years. WHy Officers are given pleasure trip LFC once in 4 years ( other lfc being hometown) whats this nonsense

Unknown said...

was hoping for 20% hike atleast because our best PM Modiji promised us very good wage revision. please anyone help us get 20 % hike

Logical guy said...

Anybody having any logical point please post. Others can keep barking.

Logical guy said...

I dont entertain any comments from clerks and chaprasis

Jk said...

Sbi clerk sitting late hours. Please done homework before writing this nonsense.

Jk said...

Officers earn heavy perks like lease and fef.

Anonymous said...

Does employee join PSU bank for these benefit only Mr.Logical?

If employee get good salary then he/she need not to take loan and overdraft.

You are prompting employee to become liabilities for PSU bank.

Indirectly you are trying to make them beggars.

Please don't promote these benefit..

Hope!you would be agree with me Mr.logical

Anonymous said...

If you think chaprasi job is more beneficial then once become and take all the benefits but don't guide others

Anonymous said...

You are trying to run ways from bebate. You are looser

Unknown said...

Congratulations to the RBI Pensioners for achieving their demand for updation of pension, though prospectively. Finance Ministry today informed RBI about their approval. The refixation is right from the last three wage revision for them.

Anonymous said...

You are mentally retarded bank employee, not suitable for serving people.
Office mein beitha apni gharwali pe shak karta rahega.

Anonymous said...

You are mentally retarded bank employee, not suitable for serving people.
Office mein beitha apni gharwali pe shak karta rahega.

Logical guy said...

Please elaborate this

Logical guy said...

Chaprasi ho...chaprasi raho

Anonymous said...

I which state are you from, clerk works till 7 pm to complete work

Logical guy said...

Everybody requires housing loan in life. It matters a lot yaar

Logical guy said...

What is the source of your info about RBI pensioners. Dont spread rumours to get cheap publicity. Quote your source of this info

Logical guy said...

I have already said. I dont want sermons from chaprasis

dreamworld said...

@Logical Guy

Hey please be in control. Whatever we say/debate here, won't change anything when it comes to wage revision at the macro level. Your logical brain isn't getting this point itseems.

Run away ?? It's our RIGHT man. If you say this openly in your branch, our Local Secretary will kick you like anything.

What do you think of yourself? Are you God or what ?? You just cleared the PO exam, but Some people don't like spending that much time in bank as they want free life at the cost of their salary/career. So, they don't like to become officers. If you feel like, you don't deserve such pressure, Just clear some better exam and leave banking.




Be in your limts before commenting. We are bound by labour laws of the land. Yes we are "labour". We have got that right to leave. But still some of us aren't leaving.

We stay in the bank till 6:30-7:00 sometimes, without being paid to complete tasks which even your officers can't complete. Some of your officers don't even know the primary basics. There are some officers in the bank, who don't even complete 50% of their work. It is a fact. Please accept it.

If you feel like, your pay is not on par with workload/working conditions, fight for it. First educate your fellow officers.

You don't have any right to comment on clerks.

Anonymous said...

I proude to be a chaprasi.
No work is smaller or bigger.
We are paid for what we work.

you are a looser, who have jealous for your office staff benefits.

Anonymous said...

Even good salary in hand??

Mr. X said...

Just 2 Simple questions.

1. Is anyone out here satisfied with the present salary which you are getting credited to account?

If your answer is YES; then why are you reading this discussion which has the sole intention of salary hike.

If your answer is NO; then read the next question

2. Since you are not satisfied, then how can you say that your union is great in terms of wage settlement?

Mr. X

Unknown said...
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Anonymous said...

Correct and true

Unknown said...

Sir
Give some respect to fellow bankers/seniors. It's true that government has agreed. If you want copy pls send mail. I will give

Logical guy said...

The real fact is due kaamchor clerks and chaprasi we officers have to suffer.

I strongly recommend to IBA that please introduce ALL INDIA TRANSFER posting for all clerks. Your pants turn yellow the moment you are transferred even 10 kms from your home. In sbi a clerk starts crying if he is transferred more than 20 kms away from home. You people have destroyed psu banks.

Otherwise bring compulsory retirement for clerks and substaff

Logical guy said...

If you have guts then share the source otherwise shut up

Logical guy said...

All officers are demanding immediate ALL INDIA TRANSFER for clerks

dreamworld said...

@Logical guy

Better you go and consult some good doctor Yaar... Please...

Something is terribly wrong with you.

With this attitude you can not survive at the branch level .. definitely you will get kicks from somebody on some day.

dreamworld said...

@ logical guy

If you were my manager, I will make you pee in your pants with fear daily. I bet you on that..

dreamworld said...

Yes .. he is mentally retarded... He should consultant some doctor..

Arey HR .. what are you doing yar??

Better send him to doctor ...

I'm not in a position to feed him with my work in the future if he becomes a liability to SBI...

Unknown said...

Chv bank employees ko barbad karke ho chodega

Unknown said...


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Anonymous said...

Logical gay sale matherjhat chv ke pille bahut maar khayega.

Unknown said...

Bad and cheap bank wage revision talks between iba and union leader

Logical guy said...

Yes I also got the RBI pension revision circular. Great.

Logical guy said...

ALL INDIA TRANSFER for clerks ka naam sunke dekho kaise susu nikal gaya clerical staff ka. Mazaa aa gaya. IBA ko kya mast idea mila hai. COME ON CLERKS PACK YOUR BAGS.

Logical guy said...

@dreamworld where do you want to go andamaan, arunachal or jammu .....choose any place 2000 kms away from your home. By the way go and buy some diapers. Pata nahi kitni baar tumhara susu nikle 😈

Anonymous said...

Rai logical Jaffa are you from iba joker team

Unknown said...

Then tell LOGICAL GUY, who are spreading rumors for cheap publicity. Don't comment with out knowing facts.

RP said...

I don't know what this logical guys problem is. Why is he showing such an attitude to clerks? Without clerks I am sure I will not be able to run bank smoothly. They should be given good HRA and other allowances as applicable. Try to respect others and their job. No job is great if you can't make a meaningful difference to society and other colleagues.

Logical guy said...

We officers are already doing meaningfull difference to society by accepting lowest wages and paying highest taxes plus maximum workload and stress.

Anonymous said...

It seems, one and only you are victim of this system.
It is your -ve attitude only.
Many officers are enjoying their job in this pay structure.

Anonymous said...

In SBI, 100 Lacs for all officers is wrong information ..
Upto SMGS V is 60 lacs, from TEGS VI - 80 lacs, Mr.logical guy did not know his eligibility also��

Anonymous said...

It is not that everyone is enjoying but we should respect our fellow employees but logical guy looks like he want to purchase a fight bettween clerks and officers with irrelevant discussions,if you feel like they are doing less work going early quit this job and join as a clerk, salary depends on time and risk you take Bhai..

Anonymous said...

Well said. Respected sir

Unknown said...

13 march 2019 ki meeting se pehle lok sabha chunav ka code of conduct lagu ho jayga. Bank union leader efforts only nautanki no serious efforts for wage revision talks chv- murdabad

Anonymous said...

Lic wage revision kicked off with management offering 10 percent on basic plus da in the first meeting itself. Same shall follow for gipsa employees. Only bankers remained beggars. Y no indefinite strike when Iba is adamant on mandate issue.

Unknown said...

Mungeri Lal ke sapne mat dekho ye bjp govt wale ko kuch NAHI dene wali

Anonymous said...

Chv zindabad