Com.C.H.Venkatachalam G.S. /AIBEA explains
His(union) stand on wage revision talks.
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Reg: Present wage revision negotiiation
Dear Comrades,
The next round of Bipartite Talks between IBA and UFBU will be held at 10 am on 26th September, 2014.
In the last round of Talks held on 17th instant, during the UFBU meeting,
we have already conveyed our view that a flexible approach should be taken so that we can compel IBA to come up in their offer.
We will again reiterate our position as per the decision of Kolkata GC meeting.
The point is that the gap between our demand and IBA's offer should be narrowed down so that we can move towards a settlement at a reasonable and mutually acceptable level and if IBA would still be adamant, we have to resort to agitation.
We hope that all of us understand the situation properly.
We also observe that there are also overt and covert, motivated and malevolent campaign against AIBEA which is nothing new for us as it happens during every wage revision settlement. Additionally, young employees, mostly officers, are being instigated and misled by vested interests.
The attempt is to cause disaffection against AIBEA. From the language seen in the Face Book, whatsapp, etc. most of them are not our members and they also appear to be not fully informed.
Still we must keep all our members informed and explained about the developments in the wage revision, questions on Pay Commission, etc. because these are the issues that are being raised.
Our experience is that wherever we have explained, our members, particularly, the youngsters understand better.
Basically youngsters are intelligent and hence it is easy to explain to them the hurdles involved and realities before us. After all, their expectations are genuine. Hence instead of getting angry against their abusive and offensive comments, we should mind our business. Successful wage revision settlement is our target.
We believe that UFBU should move together towards an expeditious settlement as we cannot drift and get into further complications in wage revision.
In addition to satisfactory wage increase, there are other very important issues and demands on improvement in our service conditions, retirement benefits, etc. which have to be achieved. We also have to ensure that we do not compromise on our basic rights in the name of achieving wage revision. Our jobs and job security also have to be preserved. We also need to tackle the issues raised by the IBA.
Here and there we also hear attacks on AIBEA from some of the adversaries. We know these minions too well and such people are capable of only criticism but cannot achieve anything.
That is why historically, bank employees have ignored and rejected these elements all these years.
Let us get ready to settle. If not, let us get ready to fight.
With greetings,
Yours Comradely,
C.H.VENKATACHALAM
GENERAL SECRETARY
His(union) stand on wage revision talks.
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Reg: Present wage revision negotiiation
Dear Comrades,
The next round of Bipartite Talks between IBA and UFBU will be held at 10 am on 26th September, 2014.
In the last round of Talks held on 17th instant, during the UFBU meeting,
we have already conveyed our view that a flexible approach should be taken so that we can compel IBA to come up in their offer.
We will again reiterate our position as per the decision of Kolkata GC meeting.
The point is that the gap between our demand and IBA's offer should be narrowed down so that we can move towards a settlement at a reasonable and mutually acceptable level and if IBA would still be adamant, we have to resort to agitation.
We hope that all of us understand the situation properly.
We also observe that there are also overt and covert, motivated and malevolent campaign against AIBEA which is nothing new for us as it happens during every wage revision settlement. Additionally, young employees, mostly officers, are being instigated and misled by vested interests.
The attempt is to cause disaffection against AIBEA. From the language seen in the Face Book, whatsapp, etc. most of them are not our members and they also appear to be not fully informed.
Still we must keep all our members informed and explained about the developments in the wage revision, questions on Pay Commission, etc. because these are the issues that are being raised.
Our experience is that wherever we have explained, our members, particularly, the youngsters understand better.
Basically youngsters are intelligent and hence it is easy to explain to them the hurdles involved and realities before us. After all, their expectations are genuine. Hence instead of getting angry against their abusive and offensive comments, we should mind our business. Successful wage revision settlement is our target.
We believe that UFBU should move together towards an expeditious settlement as we cannot drift and get into further complications in wage revision.
In addition to satisfactory wage increase, there are other very important issues and demands on improvement in our service conditions, retirement benefits, etc. which have to be achieved. We also have to ensure that we do not compromise on our basic rights in the name of achieving wage revision. Our jobs and job security also have to be preserved. We also need to tackle the issues raised by the IBA.
Here and there we also hear attacks on AIBEA from some of the adversaries. We know these minions too well and such people are capable of only criticism but cannot achieve anything.
That is why historically, bank employees have ignored and rejected these elements all these years.
Let us get ready to settle. If not, let us get ready to fight.
With greetings,
Yours Comradely,
C.H.VENKATACHALAM
GENERAL SECRETARY
same type words used last settlement and this, like a politician
ReplyDeletei think we have given sufficient time to settle, it is the time for fight, on 26th if iba accepts for 20% and 5 day banking, other important issues all happies, otherwise go for strike from 6th oct. we dont have patience any more.
ReplyDeletestrike should be more than 5 Days to give impact
DeleteYou are right sir
ReplyDeleteour members, particularly, the youngsters understand better.
Basically youngsters are intelligent and hence it is easy to explain to them the hurdles involved and realities before us.
So we can understand what's is milk and what is water.....
Other issues ke chakkar mei Wage revision ko q latka k rakhe h.
DeleteOther issues to ongoing process h.
This post doesn't even deserve a comment. We'll see what we get... Everything will be clear within next 3 months.
ReplyDeleteGo ahead Sir I am with you !!!!
ReplyDeleteBut at least try there should be 18% increment so that new joinees whether clerk or officer can survive in today's expensive atmosphere.Best of luck Sir :) :)
Yeah we understand better.
ReplyDeleteBut keep in mind JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED.
WE hv waited even much more it requires.. Now its tym to act.
Gi for indefinite strike. IBA NEED TO SEE US ACTING.
ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER...LET THEM SHOW
How many days required for settlement ? Central govt employees approved their 7th pay commission before its due.it is shame to our union leader...dont expect this kind of useless explanations.... Do on it 20% not below...otherwise leave d union..we will do....n..prove it...if u r unable to do....go for strike.....all d fb n wtsapp updates given by d active young banker...dont ignore our comments....otherwise u know wt will be d future result
ReplyDeleteWe will come to know soon how much it is believable....most of the members will come out from unions .in case settlement will not be done better...
ReplyDeleteMinimum 20 percent 5 days working pension also revised stag
ReplyDeleteIncreament after 2 years imprve setvice condition
Venkatachalam....plz dont give useless explanations... We are seeing useless work since last 2 years...if i will be ur post..fast n foremost morality i should quikt d post n leave d bank forever..
ReplyDeleteJust search for C H Venkitachalam in google...you can see him..an elderly person...nearing his exit
ReplyDeleteIBA is playing hide and seek...from one meeting two another...yet union dos't understand...this is enough.
ReplyDeleteWhat the union is doing?
ReplyDeleteThey are only wasting time with iba as they have taken huge money from government so they are only doing formalities and nothing is going is to happen. Otherwise our union are coward, they should go on continuous strike unless government is not giving 20% salary jike. Think about bankers government are doing discrimination betwwen central gov. Employees & bankers.
We are not humans, we are ass according to honourable pm. Pmjdy has put a loss of stress on bankers, they are sitting late time in banks.
It wud b better if we can dissolve these WASTEFUL unions who r not even capable of fulfilling the main objective of their existence. We r nt living in Adams world where time is of no importance. Everyday, evermonth, every quarter, every year we r pressurised to achieve financial goals ind bank but our unions r partying with the funds of their members with almost no importance to time. I m ashamed of our unions.
ReplyDeleteMrchv are you talking about 5yrs wage revision or 7yrs...or waiting next paycommission for banks wage revision
ReplyDeleteI don't think they are capable enough to address issue in front of govt
ReplyDeleteAs a leader of the trade union one cannot talk favour the management. If u r not dare to demand more wage then why u there. U cannot angry on ur members dont forget u r representing bank employees do ur best. Why dont u call for strike we everybody is ready for that.
ReplyDeleteTotally Bullshit
ReplyDeleteTake 20% wage revision because after 5 years next settlement there wise go for indefident strike, then wake up the govt.
ReplyDeletethe very fact that iba offered 5% like we give a rupee or two to the needy(beggers) and the ufbu going for negotiations itself speaks about our great leaders
ReplyDeleteAccpt 10% and 5 day week... Kal bat khatan karo yar... I need money yar
ReplyDeleteNoway tomorrow our wage revision will be settled as our dear pm has gone to america. Without pm signature no settlement. Same words will be repeated tomorrow
ReplyDeleteWaste(wage) revision, they r interested in pension benefits than salary
ReplyDeleteGo for strike we have no option
ReplyDeleteNo doubt Youngsters are intelligent but they are emotional and this is the reason they are be fooled . Youngsters need 5 days banking and most of the leaders need retirement benefits so ultimately the former will be disappointed.
ReplyDeleteForget about any benifit of the Union I am in the union just becoz of they do not harm me....Infact now a days management is better than Union.
ReplyDeleteCHV kindly clarify if all union members refuse to pay a months union subscription WHETHER MAJORITY STATUS OF UNIONS CAN STILL BE CLAIMED AND REPRESENTATIVES ARE ELIGIBLE TO NEGOTIATE WAGE REVISION. You are requested to bear this in mind when you participate in tomorrow talks
ReplyDeleteWe people are intelligent...that we all know and because of this the nationlised bank absorb us from the millions in this era...not like you people...
ReplyDeleteSo dont try to fool as with the help of undertable talks ....
Please avoid considering the bipartite talks table as a venue for having tea along with lavish foods....If the union wants tea,...we are ready to guve you 5 or 10 rupees...
ReplyDeleteEveryone knows that IBA and UFBU are working hand in hand. UFBU wants only one thing. "LEVY". They are not ashamed for getting levy even when they fail to succeed. Infact they just want to take this as far as they can as they will get more "LEVY" so that they can get drunk and do whatever they want with our hard earned money. UFBU leaders go to hell...
ReplyDeleteFunny letter
ReplyDeletePahle identity disclose karo,,, then comment,,, letter will give you more than what you expected.,,,
DeleteNow times come to replace useless UFBU by pay commission.
ReplyDeleteMy prediction: 15% hike by IBA
ReplyDeletewe are very disappointed with all of these silent approaches.
ReplyDeleteThey will give only 14 to 15% and some regulatory working hours which are applicable only on papers.
ReplyDeletethe unions cheat the members the only for levy the leadrs use
ReplyDeletethe money of union
The actual reason for delay
DeleteShame on UFBU for its approach on wage revision.
ReplyDeleteFoolish leaders ......u dont think only about retirement .....if u cant speakup tmw then atleast allow us to go for indefinate strike .......dont waste our time
ReplyDeleteUnion leaders are actual villain.
ReplyDeleteAre they represntative of us or IBA.?
When cntral govt employees getting 40% hike, 5 days work without pressure n risk.
So why not we can demand for 20%
My only qstn to Iba n union bcz now they are on same side.
We bankers are human beings or bonded robots.
i want to know, as i found this a correct place for my answer, what is the status of a probationary officer in a bank???? They advertise it as a learning platform and there is so much competition in the entrance exams but I have heard that you will be treated as a clerk (not in a view to harm any sentiments )..... you will not learn anything and will do nothing new other than opening account and counting notes..... how far is it true??? ..... help me all the experienced employees
ReplyDeleteVery Much True... (90%)
Delete(During the training Period)
They Just need retirement benefits as most of them are going to retire in next few years . Pagal bana rakha hai sabko....ek taraf 5 days banking ki baat karte hai aur dusari taraf 7 days bsnking ka bhi management order nikalti hai to use oppose karne ki himmat nhi hoti.
ReplyDeleteI fully agree with one of the above posts that strike should be more than 5 days to give some impact and infact indefinate till the settlement arrives and then y should the union ask 4 leavy...
ReplyDeleteIs it possible that the salary of bank employees go parallel to the central government pay commission and the mediators can be removed who actually delay the wage revision and demand laby and other form of money
ReplyDeleteThe news, though un believeable , that some of leaders of union/associations are discussing not to demand levy this time just to save their grounds. ......
ReplyDeleteDear Mr Venkat..can u pl highlight a single logical sentence in ur entire letter? If yes then we will be believing all ur absurd theories else u try to accept the general sentiment of ur members for ur own existence.
ReplyDeleteKhatam karo or agle ki tayari karo abhi se
ReplyDeleteWe need new unions. New leaders. present leaders are expecting from the govt thats why they favour to the govt not the bank people
ReplyDeleteI really appreciate mr. Kumar for giving all ur support about bank news. Thq
ReplyDeleteYeah... it is true that the young Bankers are intelligent and understand the whole affair.... it is beyond doubt for any young banker to understand that self proclaimed leaders like u are thinking about their personal and parochial benefit and not about the bankers in General.... Will u please make it public "what position/ post u r thinking and desirous to get from the IBA/ Govt. at he cost of the Bankers???????"....
ReplyDeleteJust heard the news!!! Talks postponed to oct 10th. I wonder what is the purpose of todays meeting.. We should come out of union and go for indefinite strike that is the only option left
ReplyDeleteThe unions are doing nothing and they are really coward
ReplyDeleteFormer Finance Minister said " we can't pay the whole profit as salary". There is no strong reply from our union. Most of the people believe the above statement. Arrange the debate with IBA in CNN or NDTV to explain the people where we are and where the central govt empleyees are being.
ReplyDeleteAll the young bankers are disappointing with both iba & ufbu behaviour towards wage revision
ReplyDeleteTime to call indefinite strike
i want to know, as i found this a correct place for my answer, what is the status of a probationary officer in a bank???? They advertise it as a learning platform and there is so much competition in the entrance exams but I have heard that you will be treated as a clerk (not in a view to harm any sentiments )..... you will not learn anything and will do nothing new other than opening account and counting notes..... how far is it true??? ..... help me all the experienced employees....... my email address is amit2202keshav@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteAlmost the truth.
Deleteit is advised in the present scenario,
Do not ever join any Bank.
Work like an ass
Get paid like a slave.
Chor union strike bhi karegi toh late october main karegi taki 1 month aur pass ho jaye
ReplyDeleteChv= LOL
ReplyDeleteUFBU = LOL
Bekar ka drama jai,
ReplyDeleteThey are worthless.. Not even internal management listen to them
ReplyDeleteVery Truly said Comrade."Hence instead of getting angry against their abusive and offensive comments, we should mind our business. Successful wage revision settlement is our target."
ReplyDeleteBusiness of sipping scotch whisky in five star hotels,conferences and waiting for the bonanza of next levy
, from these foolish bank employees..
Arey dosto youngstars can 24*7 365 days,we want money,Ye buddhe toh mar hi jayenge,so wat they undrstnd of wage rvsn,we r n need of money,a nice home,a nice car.Do something.do something,ds oldies ka arthi toh uthegai,zindigi Hume jina hain
ReplyDeletesethu poda chv punda mavune //// uumbu da thayoli //// resign pannuda thevadiya payya
ReplyDeletedei porumbokku why u publish the message of asshollllllllle chv , the idiotic goon and chamcha of govt
So this is ur communication style with bankers.. Shame on you guys.. When IBA offers you raise of 5% increase in salary shows how good you are.. How strong your views are.. After 20 months delay also how easily you people narrate situvations... Ware..wah..
ReplyDeleteOh it appears CHV woke up from his almost 2 years slumber now. Stop decrying criticism but introspect your own actions. Considering the mighty size of ufbu, your arguments are suspect. Please do not throw spanner and scuttle this settlement too like earlier ones. You have been around for too long. Hence consider quitting and before that try to get the best for thd employees
ReplyDeleteKab tak hoga ye katam
ReplyDeleteUnion leaders should not hesitate to insist 5 days week and reasonable salary hike.without banks people will become mad
ReplyDeleteBank employees are not paagals without reasonable salary hike and rest.just compare the central govt employees.option of bank job is last one
ReplyDeleteWhy RBI and NABARD will not participate and do the strike. Only PSBs has to do strike and RBI staff will get huge revision of salary. Even a sub staff will get more than a senior clerk of PSBs. Stop negotiating with IBA. Then RBI and NABARD will come into the picture and join with PSBs. My strong feeling is not to beg IBA for wage revision at all. Then all the Executives of PSBs will request IBA for wage settlement because if our wage is revised then automatically their salary will increase. Only work to rule should be done. No extra hours. No recovery is being done after office hours and Sundays. IBA is playing with the us. We have to get profits and salary hike to Central Government employees? What a joke. I sincerely request all the people not to join BANK which I made a mistake 30 years ago after resigning from a Public Sector Organisation.
ReplyDeleteAccording to my assessment final increase will be somwhere between 13 to 15 % and it will take 9 or 10 months. And these Union walas are already into the deal with IBA. They are just doing these chai parties for eyewash and all they need now is levy. We need to move away from this system of unions to pay commission.If profit clause is not looked in central govt. services why in banks ?
ReplyDeleteSIR,
ReplyDeleteIT IS VERY UNFORTUNATE TO SEE THAT OUR ABLE LEADERS,WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE TO DECIDE THE SOCIO-ECONOMIC FUTURE OF A BANKER,ARE SEAMS TO BE HANDICAPPED IN FRONT OF GOVERNMENT AGENCY LIKE IBA.THEY MUST THINK IF THE CENTRAL/STATE GOVT EMPLOYEE GETS AN INCREMENT OF FIXED RATE OF 3% OF THE BASIC, A BANKER SHOULD ALSO. IF NOT WITHIN THE SAME STATUS OVER THE YEARS A WIDE GAPE IN THE SALARY CREATES,WHICH WILL FURTHER LEAD A SOCIO ECONOMICAL PROBLEM FOR A BANKER,SPECIALLY WHO ARE RUNNING OVER STAGNATION INCREMENT WHICH IS EVERY AFTER THREE YEARS.I ADVISE THEM THAT IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO THINK MUCH AT LEAST PUT A HABIT OF COPYING IT FROM OTHER SOURCES FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR BELOVED BANKERS. IT HAS TO BE AT PAR WITH THE GOVERNMENT POLICY.FOR ANY KIND OF CONFIRMATION ON THIS REGARD PLEASE REFER THE SIXTH CENTRAL PAY COMMISSION GUIDELINES ISSUED BY THE GOV.